BigBadWolf 0 Posted January 13, 2015 Naleteh na ovo, mozda nekome koristi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Markobgd 610 Posted January 13, 2015 Mislim da je već negde bilo ali nije na odmet što si ponovio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blasterskv 0 Posted January 24, 2015 Pozdrav svima. Elektricar veli da mi ECU lapi. Nov kaze da skoro nema nigde da se nadje i da kosta oko soma evrica, polovan tesko se nalazi... Vase preporuke bih molio oko nalazenja jer sam auto skoro uzeo i na njemu bas sve radi kako treba. Ide prelepo, samo, eto, poceo da mi prilikom verglanja na displeju prijavljuje ASR, "katanac", Fuel level itd... Ugasio mi se 2 puta, za sad Ali sem toga nista vise, na srecu. Ide vrhunski, ne trza. Sto se toga tice, sve OK. Plasi me da mi ne zabode na putu negde. ECU je vec izmesten na bocnu stranu akumulatora (koji sam proverio i odlican je. Varta.) Unapred hvala! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MS PK 8130 Posted January 24, 2015 Vidi sa kolegom Crni Sale ili u servisu u bg-u, ne mogu da se setim imena sada. Valjda bese Beoelektronika ili slicno. Ima broj telefona na forumu. Reparacija se krece oko 100-150e uz garanciju. Naravno ako je moguca popravka. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bojan UE 0 Posted January 26, 2015 Ja sam imao isti problem i najvise me plasilo da mi se auto ne izgasi negde u sred preticanja ili u nekoj kriticnoj situaciji pa da belaj bude veliki...Imam sa kolegom Crnim Saletom krajnje pozitivna iskustva sto se tice reparacije ECU-a, evo skoro ce godinu dana od reparacije i nikakvih problema od tada nisam imao, sve funkcionise besprekorno! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mijailović P. 3688 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Čika Sale je nekrunisani Kralj! Edited January 26, 2015 by Mijailović P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beli6 0 Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Imam stila 1.6 2001 godiste izgleda da mu crkava ecu e sad pitanje je da li mogu da nadjem-ubacim isto od benzinca 1.6 ali od 2004 godista kazu da ih pravi bosch i da nemaju problema.. ? Izmestio sam ja ecu... na dobro mesto... pitanje je jel "pase" od 2004 na 2001 komp i ako treba de se dekodira ali mi je bitno da radi? Edited February 23, 2015 by neshaoct spojeno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MS PK 8130 Posted February 23, 2015 Pise u temi na kojoj smo. Gleda se po oznakama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsinisa 0 Posted February 23, 2015 Imam Fiat Stilo 1.6 MW DINAMIC 16 V5P 2004. godiste. Povremeno se dešava da nece da upali.Vergla kao lud a neće da sastavi. Nema pravila da li je vruć ili hladan motor. I onda posle pola sata,kad probam ponovo, upali iz prve. Desilo se vec nekoliko puta. Takođe, povremeno se desava da se auto alarm upali u toku voznje i pisti dok god ne izađem,zaključam i ponovo otključam auto. Ne izbacuje nikakvu gresku,ni na displeju, ni na racunaru kad ga majstor poveze. Koja je verovatnoća da je u pitanju ECU?I da li bi možda premeštanje istog rešilo problem? Unapred zahvalan na svakom odgovoru. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dante Bg 4 Posted February 23, 2015 Ecu ostavi za kraj.Mozes ga premestiti iz predostroznosti,ali ga ne menjaj dok sve ostalo ne izproveravas.https://www.fiat-lancia.org.rs/forum/index.php?/topic/48755-fiat-stilo-16-16v-preme%C5%A1tanje-ecu-a-nov-ili-reparacija/ Da krenemo od najbanalnijeg-akumulator,alternator,alnaser...Da li je nesto od toga kontrolisano?https://www.fiat-lancia.org.rs/forum/index.php?/topic/42736-fiat-stilo-16-16v-14-16v-problem-sa-paljenjem/https://www.fiat-lancia.org.rs/forum/index.php?/topic/41283-stilo-16-16v-nece-da-upali/https://www.fiat-lancia.org.rs/forum/index.php?/topic/50224-stilo-19-jtd-vergla-ali-ne%C4%87e-da-upali/https://www.fiat-lancia.org.rs/forum/index.php?/topic/45881-stilo-16-18-problem-sa-paljenjem/ Alarm je koji u pitanju?Fabricki ili neki drugi?https://www.fiat-lancia.org.rs/forum/index.php?/topic/48672-stilo-fabricki-alarm-se-pali-sam/https://www.fiat-lancia.org.rs/forum/index.php?/topic/40628-fiat-stilo-fabri%C4%8Dki-alarm/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beli6 0 Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) A meni jel moze neko da pomogne? Edited February 23, 2015 by beli6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simonen 104 Posted February 24, 2015 Odgovara ti samo mora da se nuluje tj.da se napravi nevin,tako da prvim ubacivanjem kljuca u bravu prepozna kod sa tvog kljuca.Ako nemas gde mogu ja to da ti zavrsim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beli6 0 Posted March 3, 2015 Znaci fizicki stajee komp od 2004 godista? samo treba to kodiranje? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beli6 0 Posted March 4, 2015 Hvala puno... Kada bi stavio od 2004 pa na gore onda ne bi brljavio jel tako? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neshaoct 9704 Posted March 5, 2015 Ne postoji opcija da ti bilo ko napiše da ne bi, ili da sigurno bi...ne postoji takva vrsta garancije. Ima dosta onih kojima ni onaj sa starijih godišta ne brljavi, a opet dešava se da pravi problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
senna021 0 Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) u pitanju je fiat stilo 1.6 16 v sa problemom skakanja kazaljke temperature. to se ne dešava uvek, nego povremeno, nema pravila. dijagnostika nije pokazala ništa. ipak zamenio sam termostat, senzor temperature (na termostatu), nov antifriz (paraflu g11), svećice (bosch), jednu bobinu (na dijagnostici pokazalo grešku p 0353) i ponovo isto... ima li neko ideju....video je ispod (ključni detalj je na 0:09 i 2:28)hvala http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3dMkbf8_TU&feature=youtu.be Edited March 9, 2015 by neshaoct spojeno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mijailović P. 3688 Posted March 9, 2015 Šta kaže dijagnostika? Koja je temperatura? Pretpostavljam da je dobra pa stoga treba problem tražiti na instalačiji i na tabli. Znači, od ECU-a preko konektora senzora do osiguračke kutije i konektora table. Na kraju sama tabla i motorić kazaljke. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
senna021 0 Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) na dijagnostici temperatura 88-89 C. čim kazaljka predje polovinu upali se ventilator, kazaljka se vrati na pola, ugasi se ventilator, desi se nekada da u par sekundi kazaljka šeta gore dole i pali i gasi ventilator. Edited March 9, 2015 by senna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mijailović P. 3688 Posted March 9, 2015 Žao mi je što ovo moram reći ali mi se čini da je ECU u problemu. Nije sigurno, ali mi neko predhodno iskustvo govori. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
senna021 0 Posted March 9, 2015 moguće, tu opciju ću ostaviti kao poslednju, danas kada sam ispod haube gledao gde šta ide od žica i kablova, uhvati osam bunt žica u kome se nalaze i dve žice od senzora temperature (na termostatu), i kada sam ih pomerao levo - desno, upalio se ventilator i kazaljka temperature prešla na prvu crtu preko pola, ponovo sam pomerao taj bunt i ventilator se ugasio i kazaljka došla na pola. verovatno ima veze, pa me zanima gde počinju te dve žice (mislim da su svetlo crvena i svetlo plava) koje se završavaju na senzoru temperature (na termostatu)... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mijailović P. 3688 Posted March 9, 2015 Autodata... Pogledaću, pa ću postaviti ako me neko ne preduhitri! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mijailović P. 3688 Posted March 9, 2015 Kao sto se vidi, direks na ECU! Obzirom da pomeranjem zica ukljucuje ventilator, postoji mogucnost da su zice negde ogoljene pa dolazi do kratkog spoja ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
senna021 0 Posted March 9, 2015 hvala, ova sema će biti od pomoći, samo da li je ista za bosch ECU i Magnetti Marelli ECUvidim da su u pitanju pinovi 36 i 45 na B konektoru. Inače ako nekome treba evo spisak pinova za A i B ECU konektore za Magnetti Marelli 'A' Connector (Vehicle-side Wiring) 1 Not connected2 Accelerator pedal sensor supply3 Accelerator pedal sensor 2 supply/air conditioning pressure switch4 Not connected5 Air conditioning pressure switch6 Not connected7 Minimum oil pressure signal8 Not connected9 Not connected10 Serial line K11 Fiat CODE line12 Key on and supply controlled by ignition (15/54)13 Not connected14 Fan 1 engagement request15 Accelerator pedal 2 sensor/air conditioning pressure switch earth16 Direct battery +12V17 Cruise Control management (optional)18 Not connected19 Not connected20 Two-way CAN line (LOW)21 Not connected22 Not connected23 Not connected24 Not connected25 Not connected26 Air conditioning engagement request27 Not connected28 Not connected29 Key on and supply controlled by ignition (15/54)30 Not connected31 Not connected32 Not connected33 Cruise Control management (optional)34 Brake pedal switch35 Brake pedal switch36 Two-way CAN line (LOW)37 Not connected38 Not connected39 Not connected40 Accelerator pedal potentiometer 2 signal41 Cruise Control management (optional)42 Accelerator pedal potentiometer 1 signal43 Not connected44 Not connected45 Not connected46 Accelerator pedal sensor earth 147 Not connected48 Not connected49 Not connected50 Clutch pedal switch signal51 Two-way CAN line (HIGH)52 Two-way CAN line (HIGH)53 Not connected54 Not connected55 Fan low speed engagement 56 Not connected57 Not connected58 System failure signal output59 Fan high speed engagement60 Not connected61 Not connected62 Injection system relay feed63 Not connected64 Air conditioning engagement 'B' Connector (Engine-side Wiring)1 Coil 4 operation2 Not connected3 Coil 3 operation4 Not connected5 Engine crankcase earth6 Engine crankcase earth7 Absolute pressure and timing sensor earth8 Not connected9 Rpm / TDC sensor positive10 Not connected11 Not connected12 Not connected13 Absolute pressure and timing sensor power supply (+5V)14 Not connected15 DBW supply (motorized throttle ( (+5V)16 Not connected17 Coil 1 operation18 Not connected19 Coil 2 operation20 Not connected21 Engine crankcase earth22 Engine crankcase earth23 Rpm/TDC sensor negative24 Timing sensor signal25 Not connected26 Not connected27 Not connected28 Not connected29 Not connected30 Motorized throttle 2 sensor signal31 Absolute pressure sensor signal32 Upstream Lambda heater33 Cylinder 4 injector operation34 Cylinder 2 injector operation35 Motorized throttle 1 sensor earth36 Coolant temperature sensor earth37 Not connected38 Not connected39 Not connected40 Not connected41 Detonation sensor positive42 Downstream Lambda sensor '+' signal43 Upstream Lambda sensor '+' signal44 Motorized throttle 1 sensor signal45 Coolant temperature signal46 Not connected47 Not connected48 Detonation sensor negative49 Cylinder 3 injector operation50 Cylinder 1 injector operation51 Fuel vapour recovery solenoid valve operation52 DBW motor negative (motorized throttle)53 Not connected54 Not connected55 Not connected56 Not connected57 DBW motor positive (motorized throttle)58 Downstream Lambda sensor '-' signal59 Not connected60 Upstream Lambda sensor '-' signal61 Not connected62 Not connected63 Air temperature signal64 Downstream Lambda heater Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beli6 0 Posted March 9, 2015 To znam ali svi kazu da je bosova elektronika zakon i da se skoro i ne kvari pa sam mislio da ubacim neki ecu od 2004 bosovo ili tako nesto i da ga izmestim (i ovaj sam izmestio ali kasno) i da jednom zavrsim tu pricu dok sam ziv i dok je stilo kod mene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites