Ivan 17652 Posted June 30, 2020 56 minutes ago, dekirs said: Znaci ~9L na neku prosecnu brzinu od 23-27kmh, kolika je vecini ljudi koji se voze u Beogradu Opet nije toliko lose. Otprilike, zavisi naravno dosta i od rute po BG. Svakodnevna mi nije bas banja (sljaka na Vracaru), ali opet nije ni neka teska kreni-stani. Kako zna da bude na pojedinim deonicama po gradu, ne zalim se. Najvise sto sam video od cep-cep metode je 8.62l prosle zime (vidi se i na grafikonu), prosek bas taj koji pominjes, 27 km/h. I po tome se vidi da to nije neka kreni-stani voznja (npr. na Stilu mi je i posle 10 godina u vlasnistvu ostalo fabricko kvacilo i zamajac). S obzirom da za kombinovanu potrosnju iz moje prakse sa MA lazu cca 20% - kada isto to dodas na fabricku bajku po gradu od 7.2l - otprilike se dodje na cifre kojima ovde baratamo. Naravno, ko i ma neki svakodnevni kreni-stani cep, to je vec druga prica, ovo su moji svakodnevni uslovi voznje. Kako stvari trenutno stoje Stilo JTD vs Bravo MA - 6.1l vs 6.9l trenutno, iste rute, slicna tezina. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dekirs 4819 Posted June 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, moron said: Nemoguće je imati takav prosek brzine po BG. Meni je često i ispod 20 km/h. Pa vidis da je moguce. Meni je sada 23kmh, ispod toga nisam isao. 1 moron reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moron 3690 Posted June 30, 2020 @ISV_01 Da, sve je to relativno, sa prosečnom brzinom po BG. Meni je veoma često samo 14-17 km/h, jer "to" najčešće podrazumeva "krug dvojke" u baš zlo vreme ( a tamo je zlo vreme "uvek" ). Nekada znam da od garaže u Balkanskoj, do Kneza Miloša ( kroz K.Natalije ) idem i po 15 minuta ... Dok uspem da izadjem u K. Miloša, uglavnom zaboravim već i kuda sam i zašto krenuo ... 6 minutes ago, dekirs said: Pa vidis da je moguce. Meni je sada 23kmh, ispod toga nisam isao. Naravno da je sve moguće. Ali, "gradskom" vožnjom svi mi nazivamo uslove vožnje koji često uopšte nisu ni slični. Ni uporedivi. Pa, nekada čak ni onda kada se ostvari isti prosek brzine. Inače, koliko mi je poznat NEDC protokol, na testnoj ruti koju su oni nazivali "gradskom" ( i za nju deklarisali potrošnju u "gradskim uslovima"), prosečna brzina je 19 km/h. Pardon, pogreših, na NEDC testu, nije prosečna brzina 19 km/h, već 18,35 km/h When the engine starts, the car pauses for 11 s - if equipped with a manual gearbox, 6 s in neutral (with clutch engaged) and 5 s in the 1st gear (with clutch disengaged) - then slowly accelerates to 15 km/h in 4 s, cruises at constant speed for 8 s, brakes to a full stop in 5 s (manual: last 3 s with clutch disengaged), then stops for 21 s (manual: 16 s in neutral, then 5 s in the 1st gear). At 49 s, the car slowly accelerates to 32 km/h in 12 s (manual: 5 s in 1st gear, 2 s gear change, then 5 s in the 2nd gear), cruises for 24 s, slowly brakes to a full stop in 11 s (manual: last 3 s with clutch disengaged), then pauses for another 21 s (manual: 16 s in neutral, 5 s in the 1st gear). At 117 s, the car slowly accelerates to 50 km/h in 26 s (manual: 5 s, 9 s and 8 s in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears, with additional 2 × 2 s for gear changes), cruises for 12 s, decelerates to 35 km/h in 8 s, cruises for another 13 s, brakes to a full stop in 12 s (manual: 2 s change to the 2nd gear, 7 s in the 2nd gear, last 3 s with clutch disengaged), then pauses for 7 s (manual: in neutral with clutch engaged). The cycle ends on 195 s after a theoretical distance of 994.03 meters, then it repeats four consecutive times. Total duration is 780 s (13 minutes) over a theoretical distance of 3976.1 meters, with an average speed of 18.35 km/h. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YUgisa 2528 Posted June 30, 2020 Da bog da mu pukla radilica ko u praksi vozi ko na ovom testu 1 5 Ivan, ISV_01, Irena HGT and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan 17652 Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) @moron U pravu si naravno, za BG to bas zna da bude varijabilno, u zavisnosti od svakodnevnih relacija. Zato uvek i insistiramo da se za bilo kakvu relevantnu pricu dopise prosecna brzina, struktura voznje i potrosnja po cepu. Najjace mi je kad ljudi dodju i samo tresnu prosek procitan sa boarda, u koji 100% veruju bez ikave provere. A i prosecna brzina generalno zna da zavara. Mozes da imas AP + guzvu po gradu i da ti prosecna brzina bude kao neka lagana voznja magistralom. A potrosnja u jednom i drugom slucaju du*e i glava, sa istom tom prosecnom brzinom. Edited June 30, 2020 by Ivan 1 moron reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YUgisa 2528 Posted June 30, 2020 Da samo sto mnogi ne kontaju i da prosecna brzina nije ona kojom maksimalno najvecim delom idu Ja kazem drugu od SU do BP mi je najbolji prosek koji sam ja gledao bio 66km/h i onda on meni kaze kako on drzi prosek do CG od 80-90km/h 1 Ivan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan 17652 Posted June 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, YUgisa said: Ja kazem drugu od SU do BP mi je najbolji prosek koji sam ja gledao bio 66km/h Ova vrednost je neka prosecna pri voznji magistralom, normalnom voznjom. Da drzis svoj ritam, sa preticanjima, a da opet ne divljas po putu . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quadrifoglio Verde 9319 Posted June 30, 2020 Meni u Le čist grad recimo izađe na 22-23 km/h... 1 Ivan reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moron 3690 Posted June 30, 2020 I ja zimus "podesio tempomat" na 130 km/h na put od skoro 1.300 km ( oko 50 km je "planinskog", bez auto puta, sa prosekom od jedva 30 km/h ) i na kraju putovanja imao prosek brzine od samo 101 km/h. Dok ti staneš na bezbroj naplatnih rampi i na neku granicu, a i da malo odmoriš, ode prosek brzine u tri lepe ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MS PK 7732 Posted June 30, 2020 Meni 12-14-16km /h Послато са SM-A307FN помоћу Тапатока 1 Quadrifoglio Verde reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quadrifoglio Verde 9319 Posted June 30, 2020 Jel to po sokacima voziš u PK? 1 shuxx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dekirs 4819 Posted June 30, 2020 Mico ubaci u drugu nekad, slobodno 3 3 djomla, shomispc, Quadrifoglio Verde and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MS PK 7732 Posted June 30, 2020 Pa gde cu drugde Послато са SM-A307FN помоћу Тапатока 2 dekirs and Quadrifoglio Verde reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totti 13165 Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ivan said: U pravu si naravno, za BG to bas zna da bude varijabilno, u zavisnosti od svakodnevnih relacija. Ne samo za BG u globalu, nego i za NBG zna da varira u zavisnosti od relacije. Ja sam na prošlom poslu imao prosek 31 km/h, sad jedva navučem 21 km/h. Edited June 30, 2020 by Ivan Sredjena slika i format 4 1 moron, Woodoo, Ivan and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MS PK 7732 Posted June 30, 2020 Al ga suši 1.6 1 horvat reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vagenovac 4533 Posted June 30, 2020 Surova kubikaza 1 MS PK reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totti 13165 Posted June 30, 2020 Jbg, 7, 8 semafora čekam, plus parking tražim od minut do pola sata A relacija 2.5 kilometra. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vagenovac 4533 Posted June 30, 2020 Ako ne mozes peske onda elektricni trotinet ili tako nesto Послато са Mi MIX 2 помоћу Тапатока Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quadrifoglio Verde 9319 Posted June 30, 2020 59 minutes ago, totti said: Ne samo za BG u globalu, nego i za NBG zna da varira u zavisnosti od relacije. Ja sam na prošlom poslu imao prosek 31 km/h, sad jedva navučem 21 km/h. U jbt... Pa to troši skoro ko 159-ka 1.9 jtdm! Dal je realno da troši ovoliko? Kolko je težak auto? 2 Axic and MS PK reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dekirs 4819 Posted June 30, 2020 Tesko da 1.9 9ka na ovoj prosecnoj brzini moze ovoliko da trosi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totti 13165 Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, vagenovac said: Ako ne mozes peske onda elektricni trotinet ili tako nesto Imam veliku uzbrdicu u povratku, teško da će da izvuče 4 Woodoo, Ivan, Axic and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MS PK 7732 Posted June 30, 2020 El.trotinet je za gejeve i tu je kraj. Moze da kupi skuter npr. 4 Woodoo, djomla, rkoma1986 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totti 13165 Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Quadrifoglio Verde said: U jbt... Pa to troši skoro ko 159-ka 1.9 jtdm! Dal je realno da troši ovoliko? Kolko je težak auto? Doduše, ovo je i zimska potrošnja. Na prošlim relacijama sam imao od 0-2 semafora, vožnju delom auto-putem, bez traženja parking mesta i tad se prosek vrteo 6.1-6.3 Edited June 30, 2020 by neshaoct formatiranje 2 Woodoo and Quadrifoglio Verde reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neshtry 14842 Posted June 30, 2020 Ja u poslednje vreme pustim jedno minut ili dva da radi u mestu jer ne stigne da se zagreje do prvog stajanja.Čini mi se da mu odgovara a i manje troši.Kod mene je najveći problem kod potrošnje gradska vožnja i kratke relacijeSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vagenovac 4533 Posted June 30, 2020 159 opasno pije po gradu, imao sam nju i 147 paralelno sa istim motorom mjet 16v, i dok je na otvorenom skoro pa ista potrosnja, po gradu minimum 2l razlike, pa i do 3l.Послато са Mi MIX 2 помоћу Тапатока 1 neshtry reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites